#249332 - 01-02-08 06:02 PM
Quick Pick: Iowa
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American Patriot
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Quick - with less than 24 hours to go, post your predictions about Iowa (winners, losers, aftermath). Not based on who you want to win, but what you think will actually happen.
Mine:
Dem: Obama and Hillary functionally tie with a distant Edwards.
Gopster: McCain/Romneybot wins with Huckleberry 3 points behind.
Upshot: Hillary & McCain win New Hampshire.
Edited by American Patriot (01-02-08 06:14 PM)
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#249341 - 01-02-08 07:21 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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minazoe
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obama/hillary
rommney/mccain with thompson 3rd
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#249343 - 01-02-08 07:22 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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minazoe
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rommney then will get wiped out in subsequent primarys leaving a straight mccain thompson ticket.
gulliani is out to dry
huck could make it in Ipwa but he's a goner in NH.
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#249345 - 01-02-08 07:24 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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obamalama, sillery
romney, hucky
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#249374 - 01-02-08 08:51 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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since you ask I predict nothing conclusive will be established in IA/NH for either party. The super primaries will rule the day.
I might add that our presidential candidates are picked by a handful of folks in two of the whitest states in the US and some people are much more distraught and passionate over the BCS bowl system failing pick a national college football champion fairly enough.
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#249387 - 01-02-08 09:28 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Huey Newton Jr
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True enough, LC. They gotta make sure they don't have another Jesse Jackson '88 situation ever again.
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#249390 - 01-02-08 09:34 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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masque
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If Iowa wants to have a primary, fine; but this caucus crap is bogus.
Giuliani will be the Repub nominee, ultimately; tomorrow, in Iowa - Obama, Edwards, Clinton. And: Huckster; Romney and McCain.
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#249393 - 01-02-08 09:54 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Hill Rez
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rommney then will get wiped out in subsequent primarys leaving a straight mccain thompson ticket.
gulliani is out to dry
huck could make it in Ipwa but he's a goner in NH.
The notion of a grumpy old men ticket of McCain and Thompson is laughable. The VP candidate for the GOP will probably be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
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#249394 - 01-02-08 09:57 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Huey Newton Jr
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Edwards, Hillary, Obama.
Fuckabee, Romney, Paul.
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#249396 - 01-02-08 10:00 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Phebe
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Clinton first and Obama second.
Huckabee first and Romney second.
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#249402 - 01-02-08 10:05 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Zulif Bystander
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Guiliani is floating next to the fishes alongside Frederick of Hollywood.
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#249445 - 01-02-08 11:30 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Gore1FL
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Dems: Edwards will pull out a victory with a big enough edge to surprise the pundits.
GOP: Romney will eek it out over Huckabee by a slim margin.
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#249469 - 01-03-08 12:04 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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Edwards likely third place in IA.
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#249472 - 01-03-08 12:08 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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firecracker too
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Obama, Hillary, Edwards
Romney, Huckabee, Paul
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#249479 - 01-03-08 12:21 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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Good call F2.
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#249484 - 01-03-08 12:26 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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firecracker too
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Thanks, Loose! When you get right down to it, who the heck knows what's going to happen? I'll be glued to the t.v. tomorrow night...
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#249486 - 01-03-08 12:28 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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I think you will hit 4-5 dead on. But I still think these two primary/caucuses won't determine the candies.
They will be too close and there is too much weight in the super primary.
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#249488 - 01-03-08 12:32 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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firecracker too
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Geez, I would hate to think Iowa and NH would make the call for the nation. No way, no how.
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#249491 - 01-03-08 12:39 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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My prediction is that the Orange Bowl will be interrupted by a news flash announcing the winners - and millions of Americans will complain.
My second prediction is that the winner will not be the guy who finishes first.
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#249492 - 01-03-08 12:43 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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"in the final end he won the war after losing every battle" ~Zimmerman
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#249498 - 01-03-08 12:51 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Hill: The VP candidate for the GOP will probably be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
Agreed. Even the convention is in his home state. All he has to do is fix that bridge.
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#249510 - 01-03-08 01:17 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Hill: The VP candidate for the GOP will probably be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
Agreed. Even the convention is in his home state. All he has to do is fix that bridge.
Hah! Pull a sword from the stone.
The convention is here because of Norm Coleman, most likely.
Pawlenty will get savaged for leaving his broken bridge to campaign for McCain in New Hampshire - and then running off to the Canadian Arctic with Will Steger!
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#249511 - 01-03-08 01:20 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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toxteth o'grady
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"The VP candidate for the GOP will probably be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty."
Americans will never warm to the taste of polentas.
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#249512 - 01-03-08 01:24 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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firecracker too
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Whoa, masque! Are you saying Pawlenty didn't take the I-35 bridge debacle as serious?
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#249521 - 01-03-08 01:50 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Hill Rez
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Being competent in governance hasn't been part of the Republican criteria for candidates for a long time.
Hill: The VP candidate for the GOP will probably be Minnesota Gov. Tim Pawlenty.
Agreed. Even the convention is in his home state. All he has to do is fix that bridge. Hah! Pull a sword from the stone. The convention is here because of Norm Coleman, most likely. Pawlenty will get savaged for leaving his broken bridge to campaign for McCain in New Hampshire - and then running off to the Canadian Arctic with Will Steger!
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#249530 - 01-03-08 08:35 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Zulif Bystander
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No, the only thing the repukes are focused on is how to lower taxes for the richest people in America while cutting public services and breaking the bank on their wars.
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#249533 - 01-03-08 08:42 AM
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Ill take it this way...in cornfield county...
Edwards Obama Clinton
Huckabee Romney McCain
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#249538 - 01-03-08 09:39 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Phebe
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GOP: Romney will eek it out over Huckabee by a slim margin.
That would be an "eek," Gore.
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#249552 - 01-03-08 10:31 AM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Catz
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Quick pick...Iowa.
Who day playin'?
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#249712 - 01-03-08 05:48 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Iowa hgas suprised us before.
John Kerry and John Edwards came from nowhere and did well there in 2004, despite the expectations of a Dean win.
Gore Beat Bradley in 2000, despite predictions of a Bradley win.
Robertson flew to a second place spot behind Dole in 1988.
Hart became a contender in 1984 after a supirsing 2nd place finish.
Will there be a surprise from the second teir tonight, in either party?
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#249720 - 01-03-08 06:44 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Obama, Hillary, Edwards
Huckabee, Romney, Paul
I think if any of these have a chance to trend upwards, it'll be Paul. Events like the caucus are ripe for his "campaign" to overwhelm.
I put that word in quotes because I don't really think anyone, including RP, has control over his supporters. Ineffective in a convention setting, but could be quite effective in Iowa. To put it another way, I don't think he'll have a GOTV problem. His people may not be numerically superior, but damned if they're not motivated.
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#249726 - 01-03-08 07:04 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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#$%^^ double post
Edited by Gore1FL (01-03-08 07:06 PM)
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#249767 - 01-03-08 09:26 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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tlbshow2007
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fred thompson the next president...
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#249772 - 01-03-08 09:33 PM
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Zulif Bystander
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Yes! Go, Frederick of Hollywood!
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#249774 - 01-03-08 09:41 PM
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toxteth o'grady
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"fred thompson the next president..."
He hit 14%. But the story is still Huckabee with a solid win. McCain, despite all the endorsements, finished fourth. And Ron Paul beat Rudy Giuliani, taking 10% of the vote. It means at least 10% of the Iowa GOP thinks the war in Iraq is a Custer-fuck.
The bigger news is on the Democratic side, where Barack Obama was able to get his troops into the caucuses. Six point lead over Hillary and Edwards with very few delegates left to pick.
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#249776 - 01-03-08 09:45 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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loosecannon
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Obama, Hillary, Edwards
Huckabee, Romney, Paul
I think if any of these have a chance to trend upwards, it'll be Paul. Events like the caucus are ripe for his "campaign" to overwhelm.
I put that word in quotes because I don't really think anyone, including RP, has control over his supporters. Ineffective in a convention setting, but could be quite effective in Iowa. To put it another way, I don't think he'll have a GOTV problem. His people may not be numerically superior, but damned if they're not motivated.
Those were my exact picks. I dunno tho if Paul has any advantage in IA as opposed to any ordinary primary. But I agree his fans are THE motivated and can't be controlled. That might be a good thing.
Doesn't it seem like the energy is really low amongst all of the other candidates?
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#249777 - 01-03-08 09:46 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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masque
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Hart became a contender in 1984 after a supirsing 2nd place finish.
The one and only time we ever went to the caucus was '84; a friend of ours was a huge Hart fan, so we went.
How times have changed - I don't recall a single candidate, big or small, visiting our town; it just wasn't that big a deal.
When we got home afterwards, I guess we could have turned on the TV and watched Nightline; maybe Koppel would have done a show on the events in Iowa.
But now - good lord, every news outlet in the hemisphere is down there! And on TV, it's caucus wallpaper.
I suppose the difference is - now they have all that TV airtime to fill, so they make a big deal out of anything to keep the cameras rolling.
People in Iowa are smart; the caucus is dumb. Kill the beast.
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#249778 - 01-03-08 09:47 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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tlbshow2007
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Problem with Barack Obama is the fact he is a BIG FAKE!
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#249779 - 01-03-08 09:48 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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Make that a 7 point lead. Obama is coming on strong.
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#249780 - 01-03-08 09:49 PM
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Problem with Barack Obama is the fact he is a BIG FAKE!
Well, the big fake is stomping all over Iowa.
Har har!
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#249781 - 01-03-08 09:49 PM
Re: Quick Pick: Iowa
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toxteth o'grady
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"Problem with Barack Obama is the fact he is a BIG FAKE!"
No, the results indicate he's for real.
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#249782 - 01-03-08 09:49 PM
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cOOL POINT for the whole evening is no one normally goes on to win after winning the iowa thingy
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#249784 - 01-03-08 09:50 PM
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cOOL POINT for the whole evening is no one normally goes on to win after winning the iowa thingy
Carter.
But if you're right, maybe that means we can send Huckabee the liar back to Arkansas.
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#249785 - 01-03-08 09:51 PM
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"Those were my exact picks."
So far, it's Huckabee, Romney, Thompson on the Gop side and Obama, Edwards and Hillary on the Dem side. And Hillary and Edwards are essentially tied...
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#249786 - 01-03-08 09:52 PM
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No doubt we will send huck back to ark or heck we would of ended up with the beverly hillbillies in the whitehouse... hee hee hee
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#249787 - 01-03-08 09:52 PM
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toxteth o'grady
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"Carter."
And Shrub.
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#249789 - 01-03-08 10:00 PM
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tlbshow2007
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carter did not win the iowa thingy that year
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#249790 - 01-03-08 10:01 PM
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thompson is going to be the winner
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