#403208 - 02-26-09 09:44 AM
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SirCaustic
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over my dead body.....
and possibly someone elses
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#403215 - 02-26-09 10:06 AM
Gun Nuts should EAT their guns
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MrPHenryEsq
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U.S. Is Arms Bazaar for Mexican Cartels
Way past time to take the weapons out of the hands of criminals and those who support criminals.
Way past time to start throwing the criminal gun dealers and those who support criminal gun dealers into a deep hole.
Gun nuts should eat their guns instead of just eating the 'guns' and nutz of other gun nuts.
Finally, responsible adults are in charge of the government.
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#403219 - 02-26-09 10:12 AM
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Patricia
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Should we take that as a threat?
And you forgot the word "assault". Are all your guns assault weapons? Maybe you could post that pic again of you and your toys.
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#403220 - 02-26-09 10:13 AM
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cubfan
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Maybe you could post another squirrel pic...
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#403223 - 02-26-09 10:17 AM
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Patricia
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Maybe you could post another squirrel pic...
Nuts with guns?
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#403224 - 02-26-09 10:20 AM
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MrPHenryEsq
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Should we take that as a threat? And you forgot the word "assault". Are all your guns assault weapons? Maybe you could post that pic again of you and your toys.
Does sound more than a little like a threat, doesn't it!
sirLYE's favorite gun is the dinkie thingie under his belt that he likes to wag and wave with his goofyCUFI and 'gun luvers' buddies while they try to 'shoot' each other.
AK47 and other military-type weapons should only be available to members of a 'well-ordered militia'. Anyone else possessing such weapons should be indicted and tried as domestic terrorists.
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#403226 - 02-26-09 10:23 AM
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SirCaustic
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i thot i was on your ignore list henny????
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#403227 - 02-26-09 10:25 AM
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Patricia
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i thot i was on your ignore list henny????
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I think he saw it when I quoted it. Tricky, huh?
Didn't the first Bush have something to do with that assault weapons ban the first time around? Did you complain then?
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#403228 - 02-26-09 10:28 AM
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Patricia
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OK, my bad, it was Clinton in 1994 but I remember when Bush the second let it expire his daddy said he thought it should stay in place.
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#403229 - 02-26-09 10:28 AM
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SirCaustic
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yes I did....
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#403230 - 02-26-09 10:31 AM
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MrPHenryEsq
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i thot i was on your ignore list henny????
..... I think he saw it when I quoted it. Tricky, huh? Didn't the first Bush have something to do with that assault weapons ban the first time around? Did you complain then?
sirLYE isn't very quick, at anything!
The ATF and FBI are going to be busy which is why they're hiring more agents to get after the domestic enemies. sirLYE will look great in an orange jumpsuit.
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#403231 - 02-26-09 10:35 AM
Re: Gun Nuts should EAT their guns
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Westdawg
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So I guess that makes you in favor of arming Mexican drug cartels?
From various articles concerning the near insurrection in Mexico and it's spillover effects on Cal,Ariz,NM,and Texas,that would put you up against the feds,state,and local police jurisdictions on this subject. So you're really on the side of the terrorists? I guess that means that an arms dealer legally buying arms in this country could supply Hamas and you would support the lack of a ban? It's the principle Caustic...try to focus on principles,not just your hobbies.
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#403233 - 02-26-09 10:36 AM
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SirCaustic
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Should we take that as a threat? ===================================
NO....take it for what it is....
....the person that comes to take my guns will get them.....barrel first
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#403236 - 02-26-09 10:49 AM
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Westdawg
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Should we take that as a threat? ===================================
NO....take it for what it is....
....the person that comes to take my guns will get them.....barrel first
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?hp
Just more fodder for the discussion.Funny how the W administration agreed that this was a major issue and dedicated the fed resources to help stop the gun trade...I'm SURE Caustic supported W on this!
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#403240 - 02-26-09 11:03 AM
Re: Gun Nuts should EAT their guns
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SirCaustic
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I said before....I DID NOT support W or his dad or bj....on many things.....especially gun control...
my idea of gun contro....is 1) use both hands 2) hit the target 3) keep sqeezing till the clip is MT
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#403244 - 02-26-09 11:07 AM
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RosieTheRiveter
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Read that last night, and it shocked me -- I don't recall hearing about eight federal agents killed in a gun battle last May.
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#403251 - 02-26-09 11:15 AM
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SirCaustic
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rosie.....that dealer should and WILL be prosecuted....as should any dealer that operates OUTSIDE the law...
I have been asked by others to buy guns for them...(usually because said person cant buy one due to felonies etc...)...I have never bought a gun for anyone....other than My wife...
...and any guns I have ARE registered to ME.....and if I import any guns from another country...(EI: UZIs from Israel) ...I use liscensed dealers on BOTH ends.
yur frin LegalHO (imagine that)
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#403257 - 02-26-09 11:19 AM
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Catz
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Where's cRap, he has guns.
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#403260 - 02-26-09 11:22 AM
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RosieTheRiveter
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Obama to Seek New Assault Weapons Ban The Ban Expired in 2004 During the Bush Administration http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=6960824&page=1
I don't see anything wrong with reinstating an expired ban on assault weapons.
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#403265 - 02-26-09 11:26 AM
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Catz
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You wouldn't.
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#403266 - 02-26-09 11:28 AM
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RosieTheRiveter
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Compelling argument, Catz.
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#403287 - 02-26-09 11:50 AM
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That's my Catz! Meow.
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#403299 - 02-26-09 12:08 PM
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Westdawg
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So you support the drug dealers and terrorists too?
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#403300 - 02-26-09 12:08 PM
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Catz
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Scratch....hi...sssss.
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#403323 - 02-26-09 12:33 PM
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MrPHenryEsq
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So you support the drug dealers and terrorists too?
Putz hasn't the intellect or moral base to support or not support anything, unless told what to think. The puerile posts from that sad POS are pathetic.
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#403326 - 02-26-09 12:39 PM
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MrPHenryEsq
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Should we take that as a threat? ===================================
NO....take it for what it is....
....the person that comes to take my guns will get them.....barrel first http://www.nytimes.com/2009/02/26/us/26borders.html?hpJust more fodder for the discussion.Funny how the W administration agreed that this was a major issue and dedicated the fed resources to help stop the gun trade...I'm SURE Caustic supported W on this!
sirLYE would have an involuntary bowel movement while trying to drop his pants and grab his "gun". Gutless goofyCUFIs talk brazenly and boldly but they're pitiful cowards.
We finally have a real President who will preserve, protect and defend the Constitution against domestic enemies, like sirLYE and his seditionist buddies. We could get to see the "well-regulated militia" part of the second amendment enforced. It's a bitch for the seditionist that the adult President taught Constitutional Law at a major law school
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#403345 - 02-26-09 01:06 PM
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Catz
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I have to wonder when PH sucked her last one?
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#403402 - 02-26-09 02:20 PM
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KKKitty, when Bush was having Blackwater confiscate people's guns after Katrina I don't remember you saying anything.
There is no need for fully automatic assault weapons in this country. The ban is simply a tool used by law enforcement to keep weapons of this type out of the hands of outlaw gangs and terror groups like the KKK and many militia groups here in the U.S. Legitimate collectors can get a license in order to keep and own these rifles.
The guns I own are perfectly safe from being banned and never will.
Also, to my thinking, NRA is the worst thing for gun owners. They are as radical as most fringe militias.
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#403403 - 02-26-09 02:23 PM
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#403409 - 02-26-09 02:29 PM
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Catz
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cRap, why should I say anything about something that may not be true? That's the demoncrat way.
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#403436 - 02-26-09 03:08 PM
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SirCaustic
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There is no need for fully automatic assault weapons in this country ====================================
agreed..... Mine are all SEMI
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#403447 - 02-26-09 03:21 PM
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There is no need for fully automatic assault weapons in this country ====================================
agreed..... Mine are all SEMI
Then no problem as far as I'm concerned.
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#403449 - 02-26-09 03:22 PM
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cRap, why should I say anything about something that may not be true? That's the demoncrat way.
Can somebody help me? I need a translation to English.
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#403462 - 02-26-09 03:48 PM
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Catz
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You need a lobotomy.
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#403467 - 02-26-09 03:53 PM
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Just look how well yours has worked out.
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#403481 - 02-26-09 04:18 PM
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Catz
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Yes, but I am above the norm.
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#404222 - 03-01-09 01:25 AM
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"AK47 and other military-type weapons should only be available to members of a 'well-ordered militia'. Anyone else possessing such weapons should be indicted and tried as domestic terrorists"
Why do you want to try me as a domestic terrorist, MrPHenryEsq? 
Its obvious from the symantics of the anti-gun crowd that they are driven by fear of something they know little to nothing about. I think those of us that value our 2nd Amendment Rights should try to remove the fear factor out of the argument of the gun regulation crowd: teach an anti-gun nut how to handle a firearm; offer to pay their range fees or to take them hunting.
What are you referring to as an "assault rifle"? What the hell is a "military-type weapon"? Finally, Drug Cartels in fucking Mexico is now the excuse?!!? What, they couldn't find statistics support their arguments right here in the US?!? 
If the term "Assault Rifle" and "Military Style" is being applied to semi-automatic rifles made of synthetic materials, having pistol grips and the ability to auto-load larger capacity magazines (I assume larger than 5 rounds), then Eric Holder and the anti-gun advocates are intimidated by cosmetics and their arguments have little substance. Unless they want to ban your run of the mill, American-Pie hunting rifle with wooden furniture (and typically with larger, higher velocity, more accurate, deadlier rounds and longer range) as well, the whole assault rifle campaign is complete and utter bullshit, driven by fear of the unknown (to non-gun owners that is). A perhaps imperfect analogy would be if the government told amateur tennis players that they had to use the wooden rackets from the 1960's because modern day, more comfortable fiberglass rackets look too effective, or look too similar to the tennis rackets the pros use. 
"fully automatic assault weapons in this country"
For a self-proclaimed gun enthusiast hrap, it surprises me that you are buying into the lingo (read propaganda) of the anti-gun crowd. The article states that they are looking at banning "assault weapons" (vague definition) which does not necessarily exclude semi-automatic rifles from the ban. In addition, you are the only person in this thread adding the distinction of fully automatic weapons, which are already heavily regulated in almost all states. How many FFL license holders do you know joined the Mexican drug cartel or used a full auto machine gun to commit a crime?
I would start holding your AR-15 very tight and hope that a) a ban does not include "scary-looking-because-they-have-rails-scopes-and-other-doodads-and-we-saw-them-on-a-fictional-law&order-episode-beingused-by-mexican-drug-dealers-military-style-didIsay-scary? semi-automatic rifles b) If such a ban somehow takes effect, that the scary military-style-ak-AK-AKfucking47!!!!-didIsay-SCARY? rifle you already own is grandfathered in.
"Then no problem as far as I'm concerned."
You should be more concerned if Eric Holder & Co. consider semi-automatic "military style" weapons to be a problem... cause you know, they look scary. Enjoy your black powder rifle and if you're lucky, they may even allow you to keep a bolt action rifle or two. 
The Truth about Semi-Automatic Rifles - Video
Video by California Law Enforcement Officer featuring <gasp!> an AK-47.
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#404227 - 03-01-09 02:57 AM
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"AK47 and other military-type weapons should only be available to members of a 'well-ordered militia'"
I think members of a well-ordered militia or even hunters would prefer a Winchester, Mossberg or any 30-06 calibre over 7.62x39mm or the puny .223 even if its a scary looking AK (47 & 74), AR-15, SIG 550 etc... but damn, those Mexican Cartels propably can't handle the recoil so they have to get poor Eric all riled up 
The Truth about AK-47 Firepower
I do think however that legislators should move forward with the plan to ban Barrel Shrouds! (as described by the legislator) ... or perhaps you heard about the new bullet, whith a heat seeking incendiary device that cooks deer!!!! (mmmm..... deeeeer!)
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#404229 - 03-01-09 03:08 AM
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Having seen my dad spend years withstanding chronic and intense pain as the result of being shot in a robbery, I have a tough time backing the girly men who think their automatic and semi automatic weapons replace their crotch. Grow a set, guys.
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#404230 - 03-01-09 03:15 AM
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zeroflux
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However unfortunate, the key word here is "robbery" i.e. your father was shot by a criminal who almost certainly got his weapon illegally. You could ban every legally owned firearm out there but that isn't going to stop the criminal from getting their hands on firepower.
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#404232 - 03-01-09 03:21 AM
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I know you think you're right, zero, but it doesn't diminish the way I feel. Years of chronic pain changed my dad and I do resent it. I don't see the need for automatic nor semi automatic weaponry other than a substitute for testosterone.
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#404233 - 03-01-09 03:27 AM
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zeroflux
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At least I can understand where you're coming from. I don't see where 99% of the anti-gun crowd are though. How many people have relatives or know someone shot with a weapon? In those cases, how many of the shooters where gun owners, sportsmen, hunters who purchased and legally own their weapons? I also know that you and the anti-gun crowd also think that you are right, and that anyone who likes firearms is a right wing nut, mentally unstable or outright criminal. I absolutely despise issues like gun rights and abortion. It makes otherwise reasonable people completely stubborn, radicalized zealots.
You accuse racists, religious conservatives and other groups of being blinded by fear, intolerance and ignorance... but the anti-gun crowd is no less enlightened in that respect; they are also driven by fear and think nothing to strip others of their rights and a lifestyle under the false belief that it will make them safer or happier.
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#404234 - 03-01-09 03:37 AM
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I can't answer any of the questions in your first paragraph, zero. I don't think you can either.
I don't know that I'm "right". I only know how I feel about automatic and semi-automatic weapons. There's no need for either. I do think a need for automatic and semi-automatic weapons replaces testosterone. Folks feeling a great need to own either should get their hormones checked for irregularities. (Note I didn't say all firearms).
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#404235 - 03-01-09 03:41 AM
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I have always wondered at the general public's need to own assault weapons. There's no sport in using them to kill animals, and you can't use them for target shooting. I think the jones for owning such weapons is pure penis envy and nothing more. (And yes, I've handled such weapons and admired what could be admired about them, but they didn't give me a hard on.)
That said, I'm not anti-gun. But I am anti-idiot and for gun safety. I know the NRA would piss and moan, but I think any legal gun sale should come with mandatory lessons in its usage. I also think that anyone who has a gun and small children in the same home should be required to put the kids through safety and awareness training. Unless a kid's seen what a real gun can do, they have no idea it isn't just like on TV and in the movies when they pull it out of daddy's closet and run off to play with the neighbor kid or their little brother.
We will never have gun control in this country. It's much too late. Control of ammunition, however, could be another story. And maybe not a bad idea.
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#404236 - 03-01-09 03:54 AM
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"I only know how I feel about automatic and semi-automatic weapons. There's no need for either. I do think a need for automatic and semi-automatic weapons replaces testosterone. Folks feeling a great need to own either should get their hormones checked for irregularities."
I feel the same way about alcohol. There is no need for alcohol. It causes far more deaths from teenagers binge drinking, people driving while intoxicated, birth defects, abusive relationships and even depression and suicide. People that need the crutch of alcohol, even for the occasional escape should get themselves checked for irregularities, or perhaps take up a sport or hobby... sports shooting, hunting, rock climbing are much healthier passtimes... plus could be valuable skills if you serve in the armed forces or law enforcement or even to protect your home or family from some drunk intruder.
Difference is, I'm not trying to ban drinking or dictate what others should do with their lives.
Don't even get me started on cell phones; they should be banned unless they have an analog signal, are not cordless and are made entirely of wood with an exception made for the screen; glass will be allowed only if it US manufactured and does not break when struck with a hammer. Cell phone users should also have a 60 wait day period for a comprehensive background check and cancer screening and should be immediately imprisoned and their phone confiscated if it rings in a movie theatre, but not in a home theatre or living room. The phone's keypad should be locked to disallow texting by minors and a painful dual retinal/anal scan will be required to activate the keypad in the event 911 needs to be dialed for emergency service. Additionally, Bluetooth accessories would require a concealed phone license.
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#404237 - 03-01-09 04:04 AM
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firecracker too
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Difference is, I'm not trying to ban drinking or dictate what others should do with their lives.
I wouldn't mind if you did try to ban drinking, drugging and automatic and semi-automatic weapons, zero. It would be a good idea for all and I would support it.
Cell phone ban? Back off, buddy!
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#404238 - 03-01-09 04:17 AM
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firecracker too
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Whoa! You added a whole new last paragraph without showing your post as edited, zero. Not kosher!
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#404239 - 03-01-09 04:22 AM
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Don't even get me started on "Kosher". The whole concept of Kosher and its distant cousin "Hallal" should be banned...
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#404240 - 03-01-09 04:29 AM
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firecracker too
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LOL! Okay. Fair enough!
So why add the last paragraph to Post 404236 and not show that it was edited/added?
Edited by firecracker too (03-01-09 04:33 AM)
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