#474429 - 11-04-09 02:35 PM
Re: Sarah Palin as President?
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Moving sharply to the right? Pro-life, anti-gay marriage, anti-gun grabbing, that sort of thing? I don't think Mark Kirk can get Sarah's endorsement, until his voting record in the House shows that he's a real conservative.
I think the role of "king maker" might suit her well, until she is ready for a presidential run of her own.
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#474443 - 11-04-09 02:52 PM
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Yeah I hope he gets that endorsement it will work really well in Illinois in the General
Please Mark, let your ego be that bad......
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#474445 - 11-04-09 02:54 PM
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You know Dade, there are a lot of counties in Illinois outside of Cook County, and only live, breathing people are allowed to vote there.
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#474446 - 11-04-09 02:56 PM
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I think what Allen Raymond here said was one of the most astute thigns ever said, but then again, other than his brush with the law, Allen Raymond has proven to be a political Genius....
http://politicsmagazine.com/blog_post/show/571
Palin Dismembers the GOP on a Whim
Written by Allen Raymond on November 04, 2009, 02:47 PM
A reliable Republican congressional seat now belongs to the Democratic Party because Sarah Palin woke up one day and decided it would make for good Facebook content to sabotage the Republican Party in NY’s 23rd Congressional District special election. Palin, whose sabotage was joined by Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R-Minn.), couldn’t have found this congressional district on a map before this election. It did not take long for her and Pawlenty to drop in from nowhere and have a huge impact on the outcome of the race only now to move on to another victim to feed their ambition; like a science fiction characters devouring planets.
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It clearly hadn’t occurred to the egocentric, selfish nature of Palin and Pawlenty that the Republican Party leaders in New York State knew what they were doing when they nominated Assemblywoman Dede Scozzafava as their candidate in this special election. Intervention by the likes of Palin and Pawlenty was not necessary; the challenge was well in hand by those closest who knew best. It is hopeless to try and get Palin, Pawlenty and others like them to hear reason as they are so prejudice they refuse to listen. Palin and Pawlenty enabled the Democratic Party to increase its caucus size in the U.S. House, but they refuse to believe they are now standing in a pile of waste of their own making even though everybody else sees and smells it clearly.
The truth is Palin and Pawlenty stink. They reek of ambition, selfishness, prejudice and self-righteousness that destroyed the Republican Party in NY’s 23rd congressional district and will destroy it nationally if left unchecked. NY’s 23rd Congressional District has been a cornerstone of the GOP in New York State represented for decades by Republicans very much like Scozzafava. Perhaps she is not as conservative as Palin and Pawlenty claim to be, but she still had solid support from reliable conservative coalition members like the National Rifle Association and National Federation of Independent Businesses as well as a 60% rating from the NY Right to Life Committee.
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Republicans across the country of every stripe should be furious with Palin and Pawlenty and the other meddlers who have decided they own the imperious right to select and reject from afar who is allowed to represent the Republican Party on the ballot.
However, Palin and Pawlenty can now serve a higher purpose. Their shrillness and panic about a moderate in the Republican ranks may have in the end a positive effect by drawing attention to their prejudice and small-mindedness. Palin and Pawlenty’s folly in NY 23rd congressional district should awaken Republicans everywhere that if it could happen in upstate New York in can happen in their backyard. With the threat of Palin and Pawlenty showing up close to home to dictate terms, perhaps sensible Republicans, moderate and conservatives, will band together knowing that not to means inevitable destruction at the hands of politicians like Palin and Pawlenty who are driven by ambition, not principle.
The Republican Party requires now more than ever unity of purpose in the face of fiscal mismanagement by the majority party in Washington, D.C., not a putsch by the self-righteous.
Allen Raymond is a former Republican campaign manager and consultant
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#474449 - 11-04-09 02:56 PM
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You know Dade, there are a lot of counties in Illinois outside of Cook County, and only live, breathing people are allowed to vote there.
yeah and some of them even have 10 or 12 votes.....
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#474451 - 11-04-09 02:59 PM
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Some of them have more votes than Delaware.
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#474454 - 11-04-09 03:00 PM
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The two Ps on the '12 ballot. Obama doesn't win that one. Hell the 0 man is self destructing now.
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#474455 - 11-04-09 03:01 PM
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to win an election as GOP, Huge numbers in DuPage, pull 30-40% out of Cook County, and do well in Downstate, You dont' do well in Dupage, you dont' win, and yes Democrats do win DuPage now......
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#474490 - 11-04-09 03:26 PM
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Jim Ryan just announced he's running for governor, isn't that correct? The guy who ran against Blago in 2004? The guy who's going to say, "I told you so"?
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#474492 - 11-04-09 03:28 PM
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Right, that's if he gets out of the primary
Can you Say Stuart Levine, can you say Brian Dugan.......
can you say that Former Governor Edgar thought so much of him, he endorsed one of his opponents....
Jim Ryan is a very decent man with a very sad series of stories, I'm not sure he gets out of a seven man primary......
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#474497 - 11-04-09 03:43 PM
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In 1992, they said pretty much the same thing about Clinton. Last year, they said pretty much the same thing about Obama.
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#474500 - 11-04-09 03:50 PM
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Yeah and Clinton and Obama didn't almsot kill an innocent man as States Attorney in DuPage County..... or Take money from one of TONY REZKO'S Associates..... (Oh that's right Obama did) but still.....
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#474501 - 11-04-09 03:51 PM
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Can you believe that Jim Ryan is tied up with TONY REZKO
OH THE HORRORS
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#474503 - 11-04-09 03:52 PM
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Yeah and Clinton and Obama didn't almsot kill an innocent man as States Attorney in DuPage County..... or Take money from one of TONY REZKO'S Associates..... (Oh that's right Obama did) but still.....
Clinton did kill a mentally handicapped prisoner just to prove he was tough on crime...
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#474530 - 11-04-09 04:24 PM
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Slept with him........... yeah Yeah I know.....
Okay This is from Kirk, the DSCC Found these
· Kirk Called Palin the “Patrick Fitzgerald of Alaska.” In a release from the Illinois Republican Party praising Senator John McCain’s choice of Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to be his vice presidential running mate, Kirk called Palin the “Patrick Fitzgerald Of Alaska” for her grit and determination in taking on the old-line Republican guard in Alaska. [Illinois Republican Party release, 8/29/08]
· Female Voters Criticized Kirk for Supporting Palin. In September 2008, a group of 75 female voters sent Kirk a letter strongly criticizing his support for Alaska Governor and Republican Vice Presidential nominee Sarah Palin, and accusing him of not “standing up for women in the 10th District.” “There is nothing encouraging about Palin’s extreme political views, including her opposition to a woman’s right to choose even in the cases of incest and rape, equal pay for equal work, and gun control,” they wrote. “Your support for Sarah Palin shows that you are more concerned with supporting the Republican Party and continuing with more of the same disastrous policies of the last 8 years.” [Washington Post, 9/11/08]
· Kirk: Palin Would Not Have Been My Choice for Vice President. Kirk told the Chicago Sun Times editorial board that Alaska Governor Sarah Palin would not have been his choice for John McCain’s running mate. [Chicago Sun Times, 10/13/08]
· Kirk: I Don’t Know If Palin Is Qualified to be President. In October 2009, Kirk was asked by the Chicago Tribune editorial board if he believed Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin had the qualifications to become president. “Quite frankly, I don’t know,” Kirk responded. [Chicago Tribune, 10/1/08]
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#474533 - 11-04-09 04:32 PM
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"Clinton did kill a mentally handicapped prisoner just to prove he was tough on crime..."
-cubby
Laura bush murdered her mentally ill boyfriend, turning him into a hood ornament when he was no longer useful to her.
My only evidence that he was mentally ill is that he was dating her. And judging by who she ended up with, its obvious she has a soft spot for the mentally challenged.
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#474534 - 11-04-09 04:34 PM
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Laura bush murdered her mentally ill boyfriend, turning him into a hood ornament when he was no longer useful to her.
My only evidence that he was mentally ill is that he was dating her. And judging by who she ended up with, its obvious she has a soft spot for the mentally challenged.
bullSHYT....you loon....
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#474540 - 11-04-09 04:58 PM
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Ask him yourself. Oh wait- he's dead. Nevermind.
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#474542 - 11-04-09 05:00 PM
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Huey and Faptard tell these lies just to get under our skin. Just let it roll off of you, like water off a duck's back.
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#474560 - 11-04-09 06:27 PM
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I think the role of "king maker" might suit her well, until she is ready for a presidential run of her own.
All Hail King Hoffman.
Oh... Wait...
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#474562 - 11-04-09 06:46 PM
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Huey and Faptard tell these lies just to get under our skin. Just let it roll off of you, like water off a duck's back.
Just what did Huey say that wasn't true. Laura obviously killed Michael Douglas with her '63' Chevy Impala SS, a classic, ramming his '62' Corvair SS, a classic also. What a waste of cars, huh?
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#474563 - 11-04-09 06:47 PM
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Any Glenn Beck sightings yet today? He must still be whining in his Shirley Temple.
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#474571 - 11-04-09 07:15 PM
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Beck's loving it. Corzine was following the Obama plan to the letter and he still lost by a substantial margin, so let's not hear any more crap about how Deeds didn't follow the Obama plan. Corzine proved it doesn't make any difference at all.
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#474572 - 11-04-09 07:15 PM
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rap: just what did Huey say that was true?
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as usual ....NOT A DAMN THING
kinda like W sawed down the trade towers while we all slept ..
and Nixon invented aids to kill off the blacks
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#474575 - 11-04-09 07:42 PM
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One thing is for sure. Last night the results showed the conservative democrats that they have nothing to fear about voting against the HC plan. The jig is up on Obama.
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#474576 - 11-04-09 07:47 PM
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Beck's loving it. Corzine was following the Obama plan to the letter and he still lost by a substantial margin, so let's not hear any more crap about how Deeds didn't follow the Obama plan. Corzine proved it doesn't make any difference at all.
Though by following the "Obama Plan" whatever that might happen to be, he made the race closer that polling earlier this year would have suggested.
Additionally, it showed that moderate Republicans can win, and Wing nutters cannot.
So as it turns out, Beck, Limbaugh, Palin, and the rest of your kind saw your entire philosophy black-listed by the voters.
In the GOP civil war, the right wing nuts are South Carolina, and the Voters are William T. Sherman.
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#474577 - 11-04-09 07:47 PM
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One thing is for sure. Last night the results showed the conservative democrats that they have nothing to fear about voting against the HC plan. The jig is up on Obama.
Why? The most conservative Democrat in the races last night lost.
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#474581 - 11-04-09 07:50 PM
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As did the one that Obama praised 5 different times in NJ. Obama is nothing.
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#474586 - 11-04-09 07:59 PM
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Corzine's numbers improved when he did that. Obama is a popular president.
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#474621 - 11-04-09 09:01 PM
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Tell you what. Your party's candidates can lose by as small a margin as you want. Half a percentage point is fine with me. Five hundred and thirty-seven votes -- remember that number, GoreLost? That's fine with me.
Because the Obama plan didn't win for you. It just got you a little bit closer.
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#474646 - 11-04-09 09:29 PM
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Actually it put NY-23 over the line. It almost saved the lost cause that was NJ. VA was a failure because it wasn't followed at all. It was followed with a Democratic victory in every special election this year.
Sorry Frankles. It's OK to have your special delusions, but when you share them, people like me will always be around to demonstrate reality.
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#474649 - 11-04-09 09:31 PM
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Actually it put NY-23 over the line.
You're like Linus with his security blanket, GoreLost.
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#474655 - 11-04-09 09:41 PM
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You are like Charlie Brown kicking a football.
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#474676 - 11-04-09 10:14 PM
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It almost saved the lost cause that was NJ.
So much for your claims that Obama won a "landslide" last year, GoreLost. Christie's margin of victory (as a percentage of the total number of votes) was about the same as Obama's. So thanks for conceding that Obama "almost" lost.
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#474681 - 11-04-09 10:16 PM
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No it wasn't. he won by 4% Obama won 52%-45% or 46%
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#474683 - 11-04-09 10:20 PM
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Ohhhh ... wowww dude. That was HUGE. [/sarcasm]
Remember 1984?
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#474684 - 11-04-09 10:21 PM
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the exact figures are
Obama 52.9% McCain 45.7%
6.5% spread is bigger than a 4% spread, Frankles.
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#474685 - 11-04-09 10:22 PM
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Yeah, you can almost slide a piece of wax paper in between those two numbers.
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#474686 - 11-04-09 10:22 PM
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Ohhhh ... wowww dude. That was HUGE. [/sarcasm]
actually what was huge is you complaining about the identical complaint that Groucho had when I made the landslide comment before there ever was a user named Frank....
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#474687 - 11-04-09 10:23 PM
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I can read threads, GoreLost. Even threads that started before I was here.
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#474688 - 11-04-09 10:24 PM
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Yeah, you can almost slide a piece of wax paper in between those two numbers.
2.5 % is a small margin?
Why do you always take up untenable positions? You don't even argue things you can win, you just argue to argue. It's ludicrous.
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#474689 - 11-04-09 10:24 PM
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I can read threads, GoreLost. Even threads that started before I was here.
Even the erased ones, apparently...
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#474692 - 11-04-09 10:25 PM
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GoreLost, 2.5% is the difference between magna cum laude from Harvard Law, and just being a graduate from Harvard Law.
And the thread I'm thinking of wasn't erased until a month ago. I've been here almost six months.
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#474695 - 11-04-09 10:29 PM
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That doesn't even make any sense.
This is 1% If you need I can multiply these numbers by 2.5 for you as it is clear your math skills are wanting.
- 12 newborns will be given to the wrong parents daily.
- 268,500 defective tires will be shipped this year.
- 103,260 income tax returns will be processed incorrectly this year.
- 811,000 faulty rolls of 35mm film will be loaded this year.
- 14,208 defective personal computers will be shipped this year.
- 2,488,200 books will be shipped in the next 12 months with the wrong cover.
- Two plane landings daily at O' Hare International Airport in Chicago will be unsafe.
- 3,056 copies of tomorrow's Wall Street Journal will be missing one of the three sections.
- 18,322 pieces of mail will be mishandled in the next hour.
- 291 pacemaker operations will be performed incorrectly this year.
- 880,000 credit cards in circulation will turn out to have incorrect cardholder information on their magnetic strip.
- $761,900 will be spent in the next 12 months on tapes and CDs that will not play.
- 55 malfunctioning automatic teller machines will be installed in the next 12 months.
- 20,000 incorrect drug prescriptions will be written in the next 12 months.
- 114,500 mismatched pairs of shoes will be shipped this year.
- 107 incorrect medical procedures will be performed by the end of the day today.
- 315 entries in Webster's Third New International Dictionary of the English Language will be misspelled.
- $9,690 will be spent every day on defective, often unsafe sporting equipment.
- 2,000,000 documents will be lost by the IRS this year.
- 22,000 checks will be deducted from the wrong bank accounts in the next 60 minutes.
- Homes would be without electricity, heat, water, and telephone service for 15 minutes every day.
- Every page of the telephone directory would contain four wrong numbers.
http://www.greenspun.com/bboard/q-and-a-fetch-msg.tcl?msg_id=001pZE
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#474698 - 11-04-09 10:36 PM
Re: Sarah Palin as President?
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Yeah, you can almost slide a piece of wax paper in between those two numbers.
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#474767 - 11-05-09 08:36 AM
Re: Sarah Palin as President?
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GW in Ohio
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I said this on another thread....
I never thought Sarah Palin was stupid. I did think she's not well educated and she was woefully unprepared to be under the media microscope like she was last year.
But I think if she's serious about a presidential run in 2012 that she'll educate herself between now and then, and I think the next time she's a candidate she'll be up on the issues, and sharp. And I think she'll be a formidable candidate.
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#474800 - 11-05-09 10:46 AM
Re: Sarah Palin as President?
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You can't fix stupid. She'll be the same as last time only more shrill. And since she's already quit as governor, she'll only be able to pull the knuckle-dragging vote- about 25%. Everyone else will just laugh at her.
I can't wait- bring it on!
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#474802 - 11-05-09 10:48 AM
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Tina Fey can't wait either... Do I see anothe Emmy waitin' back stage..?
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#474805 - 11-05-09 10:51 AM
Re: Sarah Palin as President?
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Everyone else will just laugh at her.
Speaking of getting laughed at. Anybody see this ?
Can you say ' "Lame Duck"?
Edited by ProudLiberal (11-05-09 10:51 AM)
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#474807 - 11-05-09 10:58 AM
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Huey Newton Jr
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jenny you made a mistake. You forgot to put "jugears" in your last post.
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