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#505276 - 02-02-10 10:05 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy * [Re: loosecannon]
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BTW, cubbie, when did expert opinion ever make you consider that the RightWing Pied Piper du Jour that you hop to might be a charlatan?
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#505277 - 02-02-10 10:06 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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lc: "I have a suggestion: since we comprise 5% of the world why not spend 5% as much on defense as the rest of the world does? That would eliminate $750 billion from the budget and the deficit!

You gotta love that gags!"


No, I don't love sophistry, which is your only stock-in-trade.

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#505282 - 02-02-10 10:11 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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Originally Posted By: Gag Reflex
lc: "I have a suggestion: since we comprise 5% of the world why not spend 5% as much on defense as the rest of the world does? That would eliminate $750 billion from the budget and the deficit!

You gotta love that gags!"


No, I don't love sophistry, which is your only stock-in-trade.



sophism is to pretend that there has ever been a justification for wasting as much on defense as the rest of the world does.

Every battle ship launched is a crime against humanity and takes bread from the mouths of our own children.

Or do you consider Dwight D Eisenhower a sophist?
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#505312 - 02-03-10 07:39 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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Barack Obama refused to help get unemployment down in 2009 by design

http://www.redstate.com/erick/2010/02/02/barack-obama-admits-that-by-design-you-remain-unemployed/

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#505313 - 02-03-10 07:44 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: tlbshow2007]
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lc: "Every battle ship launched is a crime against humanity and takes bread from the mouths of our own children."

Pathetic, as usual, lc.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill

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#505325 - 02-03-10 08:33 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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Although I think it's silly to call the president a Marxist, it's truly funny and interesting that the subject of the sign is crystal clear without mentioning him.


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#505330 - 02-03-10 08:39 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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Gaggy, so is this one about you, huh?
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#505346 - 02-03-10 10:04 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: h.rapbrown]
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Does anybody wonder why Democrats have always opposed indexing the AMT to inflation?
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#505352 - 02-03-10 10:39 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: AMDG]
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There's a joke in there somewhere...


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#505353 - 02-03-10 10:46 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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Originally Posted By: Gag Reflex
lc: "Every battle ship launched is a crime against humanity and takes bread from the mouths of our own children."

Pathetic, as usual, lc.

"War is an ugly thing, but not the ugliest of things. The decayed and degraded state of moral and patriotic feeling which thinks that nothing is worth war is much worse. The person who has nothing for which he is willing to fight, nothing which is more important than his personal safety, is a miserable creature and has no chance of being free unless made and kept so by the exertions of better men than himself." -John Stuart Mill


what is pathetic is that you posted that without realizing that we haven't fought a war for our freedoms since WWII. And that militarization isn't war.

My quote was from Dwight Eisenhower, a man who knew a thing or two about war as necessity. You wanna read his whole speech?
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#505354 - 02-03-10 10:47 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: AMDG]
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Does anybody wonder why Democrats have always opposed indexing the AMT to inflation?

what is the AMT?
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#505356 - 02-03-10 10:50 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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#505378 - 02-03-10 11:38 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Hill Rez]
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Doesn't consider defense spending to be government spending??? The title of the graph is "Federal Spending as a share of Gross Domestic Product". Are you daft, or do you just think everyone else here is???


Defense spending on this kindergarten-level Cato Institute graph gets its own line, as though it exists outside the realm of government control, or that it's something special that should never go down. Are you blind, are do you just think everyone else here is??? Did I use enough question marks???


No it doesn't. The graph demonstrates where the real growth is in the federal budget. There is no distinction there as to what is or isn't outside of government control. Anyone with even the ability to fog a mirror can understand that. Evidently, you must be in the process of being fitted for a toe tag even as we speak...
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#505379 - 02-03-10 11:45 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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Now the Obuma minions are floating the idea of using the excess Tarp money to fund job creation. They are advocating breaking the law.
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#505390 - 02-03-10 12:56 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Catz]
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All it is is a change in nomenclature:

In 2009 it was called a stimulus bill.

In 2010 it is called a jobs bill.

In both years it is an opportunity for graft, a waste of money, and no jobs as a result.

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#505397 - 02-03-10 01:09 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Gag Reflex]
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and before that it was investment and before that, when Bush was in Office, it was called what is. Federal spending
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#505399 - 02-03-10 01:10 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: cubfan]
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Originally Posted By: cubfan
The graph demonstrates where the real growth is in the federal budget. There is no distinction there as to what is or isn't outside of government control. Anyone with even the ability to fog a mirror can understand that. Evidently, you must be in the process of being fitted for a toe tag even as we speak...


the real growth in government spending is in social security, medicare, intelligence and homeland security.

Social security has far more than paid for itself. So it doesn't count yet.

Produce a chart that doesn't include social security and we can talk about it.
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#505600 - 02-03-10 02:36 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/...ously-reported/

This Just In: Obama Lost 824,000 More Jobs Than Previously Reported

OBAMA IS A COMMIE AND A FAILURE IN EVERYTHING HE DOES

no one will elect anyone like him FOR A LONG LONG TIME

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#505605 - 02-03-10 02:45 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: tlbshow2007]
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Uh oh! Bad news for RWers!! Ford, GM sales zoom!!
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#505607 - 02-03-10 02:48 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: tlbshow2007]
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Originally Posted By: tlbshow2007
http://startthinkingright.wordpress.com/...ously-reported/

This Just In: Obama Lost 824,000 More Jobs Than Previously Reported

OBAMA IS A COMMIE AND A FAILURE IN EVERYTHING HE DOES

no one will elect anyone like him FOR A LONG LONG TIME


I think you meant Bush lost, huh? We're still working on the 8 year Bush clusterfuck.
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#505622 - 02-03-10 03:44 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: h.rapbrown]
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So the Bush cluster fuck occured because he didn't spend enough??Because that's how JUGEARs is "fixing " it. *snicker*

Y'all got some explaining to do, Kent.

{ have you read that book yet, btw, like I told you??}


Edited by ProudLiberal (02-03-10 03:45 PM)
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#505624 - 02-03-10 03:49 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: h.rapbrown]
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Funny you hould mention Ford. They didn't take a dime from Obama and GM still owes their soul ro Obama.
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#505741 - 02-03-10 11:04 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Catz]
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Ford and GM are only doing so well because Toyota is getting screwed by their floor mat/gas pedal hitch.

The transportation sec was on TV today telling people not to drive their Toyotas. That's low. But you gotta love it! Covert protectionism.

It won't matter, until we can build better cars then the Chinese and the East Indians for a nearly competitive price, or abandon globalization they own the auto industry.
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#505848 - 02-04-10 10:06 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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LC,

Good point. If this were GM or Chrysler we would noit be hearing anything about it.

Gangster government targets Toyota - Washington Examiner - 02/04/2010

Quote:

Given the Obama administration's catering to one of its favorite special interest groups, the United Auto Workers union, during the government's bailouts of General Motors and Chrysler last year, it is difficult to avoid wondering whether Toyota has become a victim of the Chicago Way of dealing with competitors. Toyota overtook GM several years ago as the world's leading automaker. The potential of the current sticking gas pedal controversy to inflict damage on Toyota here in its largest single market is seen in the January sales figures. Toyota sales are down 16 percent while GM is up 14 percent (Ford, which declined a government bailout last year, is up 25 percent, while Chrysler is down 8 percent). Keep the controversy going and odds are good that Toyota sales will continue to drop. The biggest losers besides American consumers will be the men and women who own and work at Toyota's 1,200 U.S. dealerships and the 30,000 Americans who build Toyotas in its five factories here. LaHood might as well have said "Nice car company ya got there, be a shame if anything happened to it."
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#505857 - 02-04-10 10:29 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: AMDG]
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#505942 - 02-04-10 01:09 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: KLATTU]
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CLASSIC!
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#505952 - 02-04-10 01:26 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: KLATTU]
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Originally Posted By: ProudLiberal

when Bush was in Office, it was called what is. Federal spending


And bail out...

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#506102 - 02-04-10 06:43 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: RosieTheRiveter]
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US voters can have a preview of what's in store for this country if entitlements aren't drastically curtailed, in order to get the budget back on a sensible footing:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dow-dips-below-10000-mark-on-rb-2592766041.html?x=0&.v=16

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Dow briefly fell below the crucial 10,000 mark on Thursday as stocks suffered their worst losses in more than nine months.

Escalating sovereign debt problems in Europe and an unexpected rise in jobless claims put investors on the defensive just ahead of Friday's crucial payrolls report.

Worries over the ability of Greece, Portugal and Spain to pay their debts fueled a flight from stocks to the safe-haven U.S. dollar, which hurt commodity prices denominated in the greenback.

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#506103 - 02-04-10 06:45 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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When the shaky dollar is still viewed as a safe haven, it's a sobering reminder of how bad things have gotten in the Eurozone. Socialism there is crumbling. Rot that was predicted all along.
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#506104 - 02-04-10 06:47 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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God damn you fucking socialists.
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#506105 - 02-04-10 06:57 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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"God damn you fucking socialists."

That's no way to talk about the Department of Defense. The largest entitlement program on earth.

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#506113 - 02-04-10 08:29 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Genghis]
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That's the liberal myth that doesn't explain the collapse of the socialistic pacifists in Europe.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/finan...d-Portugal.html

Fears of 'Lehman-style' Tsunami as Crisis hits Spain and Portugal

The Greek debt crisis has spread to Spain and Portugal in a dangerous escalation as global markets test whether Europe is willing to shore up monetary union with muscle rather than mere words.

Parliament minister Jorge Lacao said the political dispute has raised fears that the country is no longer governable. “What is at stake is the credibility of the Portuguese state,” he said.

Portugal has been in political crisis since the Maoist-Trotskyist Bloco won 10pc of the vote last year. This is rapidly turning into a market crisis as well as investors digest a revised budget deficit of 9.3pc of GDP for 2009, much higher than thought. A €500m debt auction failed on Wednesday. The yield spread on 10-year Portuguese bonds has risen to 155 basis points over German bunds.

Daniel Gross from the Centre for European Policy Studies said Portgual and Greece need to cut consumption by 10pc to clean house, but such draconian measures risk street protests. “This is what is making the markets so nervous,” he said.

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#506114 - 02-04-10 08:31 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Wait until Americans begin seeing 10% cuts in their bennies that they thought were sacrosanct and deserved. I'm gonna lmao at them.
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#506118 - 02-04-10 08:58 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Serious question Rocker, what Americans and what 10% cut in bennies are you talking about?
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#506121 - 02-04-10 09:49 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Rocker Q. Fuhrman
US voters can have a preview of what's in store for this country if entitlements aren't drastically curtailed, in order to get the budget back on a sensible footing:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dow-dips-below-10000-mark-on-rb-2592766041.html?x=0&.v=16

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Dow briefly fell below the crucial 10,000 mark on Thursday as stocks suffered their worst losses in more than nine months.

Escalating sovereign debt problems in Europe and an unexpected rise in jobless claims put investors on the defensive just ahead of Friday's crucial payrolls report.

Worries over the ability of Greece, Portugal and Spain to pay their debts fueled a flight from stocks to the safe-haven U.S. dollar, which hurt commodity prices denominated in the greenback.


You are delusional. The stock market is almost universally agreed to be bubbled and a correction after the first of the year was standard wisdom.

Are Toyota's gas pedals sticking because of the entitlement programs too?
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#506122 - 02-04-10 09:58 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Rocker Q. Fuhrman
That's the liberal myth that doesn't explain the collapse of the socialistic pacifists in Europe.



Fuckwad, there is a far simpler and more intuitive explanation for the plight of western economies than blaming their econ ills on socialism and entitlements.

Monetarism was a crock. Monetarism specifically encourages debt as a means to grow the economy. It targets the exact rates of growth, debt and interest that must be maintained to maintain that growth.

And it was a crock of shit dreamed up by banks who want nothing more than for the economy to be a dependent function on lending.

The problem wasn't the paid for in advance entitlements, it was the military spending that stole money from the SS trust fund, monetarism itself and it's reliance on debt as a means to manage the money supply. Plus lots of excessive risk that is still pervasive from Athens to Wall Street and Tokyo.
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#506123 - 02-04-10 10:00 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Rocker Q. Fuhrman
Wait until Americans begin seeing 10% cuts in their bennies that they thought were sacrosanct and deserved. I'm gonna lmao at them.


It will happen sooner than anybody thinks.

I realized last spring that Obama was hear to kill all of the FDR entitlements programs and he has far surpassed my anticipated pace of destruction.
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#506182 - 02-05-10 07:47 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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Quote:
Fears of 'Lehman-style' Tsunami as Crisis hits Spain and Portugal


AND the Dow went below 10,000 yesterday for a time; AND the first-Friday unemployment figures come out this morning.


Only one thing to do this week: buy put options on the S&P 500. Which Himself did; if he'll just pull the trigger late today, we might make something --- it's already up 50%. Heh-heh.

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#506186 - 02-05-10 07:58 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Phebe]
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Dems are reluctant to stick with Obama's agenda, especially those who are up for election in 2010...


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#506201 - 02-05-10 08:27 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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Originally Posted By: loosecannon
Originally Posted By: Rocker Q. Fuhrman
US voters can have a preview of what's in store for this country if entitlements aren't drastically curtailed, in order to get the budget back on a sensible footing:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Dow-dips-below-10000-mark-on-rb-2592766041.html?x=0&.v=16

NEW YORK (Reuters) - The Dow briefly fell below the crucial 10,000 mark on Thursday as stocks suffered their worst losses in more than nine months.

Escalating sovereign debt problems in Europe and an unexpected rise in jobless claims put investors on the defensive just ahead of Friday's crucial payrolls report.

Worries over the ability of Greece, Portugal and Spain to pay their debts fueled a flight from stocks to the safe-haven U.S. dollar, which hurt commodity prices denominated in the greenback.


You are delusional. The stock market is almost universally agreed to be bubbled and a correction after the first of the year was standard wisdom.

Are Toyota's gas pedals sticking because of the entitlement programs too?


The delusion exists in the mind of the reporter of the story that I linked, too. And in those of his sources that obviously contributed to a loose consensus which formed the reportage.

The market is sensitive to all of the variables. Denying that the Euro debt mess is a minor one in the currency and debt markets is the definition of delusional.

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#506207 - 02-05-10 08:33 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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Originally Posted By: loosecannon
Originally Posted By: Rocker Q. Fuhrman
That's the liberal myth that doesn't explain the collapse of the socialistic pacifists in Europe.



Fuckwad, there is a far simpler and more intuitive explanation for the plight of western economies than blaming their econ ills on socialism and entitlements.

The problem wasn't the paid for in advance entitlements, it was the military spending that stole money from the SS trust fund, monetarism itself and it's reliance on debt as a means to manage the money supply. Plus lots of excessive risk that is still pervasive from Athens to Wall Street and Tokyo.


The problem with your crackpot theory is that if the total amount spent on US defense over the last two decades (or so) is added up and interest applied, it doesn't come near matching the $12+ trillion debt that the entitlements are mostly responsible for.

Think about it: if the US had been Switzerlandish, and relied on some other power to 100% fund a Western defense umbrella, it still would have a debt trajectory that is unsustainable. Now, if you want to lump yourself together with the peacenik flakes like John Lennon who can't add numbers, keep spouting that baloney.

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#506235 - 02-05-10 10:58 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: ]
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I don't know. I don't think it's clear which of you is right.

The European markets certainly went down today -- 3% -- but normally they follow us down and we dipped below the Dow 10,000 yesterday.

Reporting DID include Greece and Portugal troubles as reasons, but reporting of the reasons for ups and downs are not especially reliable! And when told of that as a cause, I replied that I'd been reading about the problems with debt in southern Europe for WEEKS, so it's not like it hit yesterday, you know?

It was probably just our bad January and the dip below 10,000. The high deficits in Europe is a longer term problem.

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#506283 - 02-05-10 11:58 AM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Phebe]
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I think that there is truth to both arguments, but that truth varies by nation. What may be highly true of Japan and Israel may not apply neatly to the US.

Our entitlements have almost paid for themselves with dedicated incomes streams from dedicated taxes.

Unless you ignore that dedicated taxation there simply isn't a basis for saying that the US deficit is the product of our social programs.

But there is a very strong case in the US that our bloated defense spending has. To seal the point none of the other nations Rocker is lumping in with the US spends much at all on defense. Whereas we spend almost half of what the whole world does.
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#506287 - 02-05-10 12:01 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Phebe]
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Originally Posted By: Phebe

The European markets certainly went down today -- 3% -- but normally they follow us down and we dipped below the Dow 10,000 yesterday.

Reporting DID include Greece and Portugal troubles as reasons, but reporting of the reasons for ups and downs are not especially reliable! And when told of that as a cause, I replied that I'd been reading about the problems with debt in southern Europe for WEEKS, so it's not like it hit yesterday, you know?


Let's not forget that Europe wants the euro to fall. I have been mulling whether the deficits in Greece, Spain, Portugal and Ireland are suddenly being dealt alarmism as a calculated strategy to help the euro fall against the dollar.

After all those deficits are a direct result of the stimulus that was in vogue worldwide just 6-12 months ago.
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#506290 - 02-05-10 12:06 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: loosecannon]
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Good point, you could be right that the Euro is being talked down. At this point in time, very few countries want their currency to be strong.
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#506435 - 02-05-10 04:09 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Phebe]
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there's a geat saying saying .

Those that can, do. Those that can't, just pile up worthless Ivy League degrees.

If you want to see, in stark detail, exactly why the economy is in such a hopeless state, here you go:

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#506449 - 02-05-10 04:58 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: KLATTU]
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We could cut our military budget 50% and still be the most militaristic nation on earth.

Some years the US spends more on military entitlements than the rest of the world combined. Today almost half of every tax dollar goes to the socialist funded military. I knew a single payer military would be a disaster.

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#506454 - 02-05-10 05:39 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: Genghis]
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Originally Posted By: Genghis
We could cut our military budget 50% and still be the most militaristic nation on earth.

Some years the US spends more on military entitlements than the rest of the world combined. Today almost half of every tax dollar goes to the socialist funded military. I knew a single payer military would be a disaster.


So you think that "single payer military" is a disaster, yet you espouse single payer healthcare. Isn't that the very definition of insanity???
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#506456 - 02-05-10 05:45 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: cubfan]
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Originally Posted By: cubfan
Originally Posted By: Genghis
We could cut our military budget 50% and still be the most militaristic nation on earth.

Some years the US spends more on military entitlements than the rest of the world combined. Today almost half of every tax dollar goes to the socialist funded military. I knew a single payer military would be a disaster.


So you think that "single payer military" is a disaster, yet you espouse single payer healthcare. Isn't that the very definition of insanity???


Or f***ing retarded!
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#506481 - 02-05-10 07:24 PM Re: Obama's war on the economy [Re: AMDG]
Genghis
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I was being sarcastic. You conservatives hate single payer health care but you love single payer military.

You don't trust government to manage payments for health care but you trust government with nuclear bombs.

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